These are both 2005 models. 800 xcsp with reverse and electric start. 1433 miles. it is in excellent condition. Aftermarket ski's, windshield bag, stock engine and exhaust. 3950.00. The 600 touring has 2716 miles, tank bag, rear bag and is also stock. 2950.00. These were adult ridden in upper and lower Michigan only. will sell separately.